# Bnt/eth deficit chart?
**URL:** https://gov.bancor.network/t/bnt-eth-deficit-chart/4908
**Category:** Community Chatroom (DISCUSSION)
**Created:** [April 24, 2025, 9:52pm UTC](https://gov.bancor.network/t/bnt-eth-deficit-chart/4908 "2025-04-24T21:52:25Z")
**Posts on this page:** 5
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### Author:  [@exbancor](https://gov.bancor.network/u/exbancor)
#### Post date: [April 24, 2025, 9:52pm UTC](https://gov.bancor.network/t/bnt-eth-deficit-chart/4908/1 "2025-04-24T21:52:25Z")
is there a place i can plot the bnt / eth deficit overtime?
i have been keeping this position open so i can offset future capital gains, but doesn’t it make more sense to pull the band-aid off now?
am i wrong to assume that the deficit is not going to be resolved and that everything has been tarnished? i have never seen carbon mentioned on any defi app or on social media anywhere. i wish no ill will, but i’ll never use a bancor product. i have $bnt in my wallet that do literally nothing
edit: i could have closed this 2+ years ago and been up probably 10% on treasury notes. how much has the gap widened in that time versus ether?
can i graph this overtime? how foolish am i to sit here and check the governance forum in a few months and see no progress.
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### Author:  [@glenn](https://gov.bancor.network/u/glenn)
#### Post date: [April 28, 2025, 12:13am UTC](https://gov.bancor.network/t/bnt-eth-deficit-chart/4908/3 "2025-04-28T00:13:33Z")
Yes, you can look at the ETH/BNT deficit over time via Dune:
[https://dune.com/bancor/bancor3-surplus-deficit](https://dune.com/bancor/bancor3-surplus-deficit)
you will also be able to filter for any other token that you are interested in viewing as well. As of today, there are only 10 pools that are still in deficit in Bancor v3. You can view those via the Bancor DAPP ([Bancor Network](https://app.bancor.network/earn)).
No one can advice you on whether you should withdraw liquidity with a deficit or stay in the protocol until recovery happens.
Carbon DeFi is now running on Ethereum, Celo, Sei v2, and Coti. The protocol continues to expand via licensed deployments as well to other blockchains. In addition, Bancor has also seen traction via the arb fast lane which is an arbitrage framework available across multiple blockchains.
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### Author:  [@ccc](https://gov.bancor.network/u/ccc)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2025, 4:45am UTC](https://gov.bancor.network/t/bnt-eth-deficit-chart/4908/5 "2025-09-14T04:45:13Z")
Thank you for providing the link to that very pretty chart, but with all due respect, your response is an illustration of the very problem being discussed, and frankly unacceptable. “Until recovery happens.” When, glenn? From where, glenn? It appears we have been left out of the loop here.
As a former governance delegate and a long-term liquidity provider, still stuck in the v2.1 protocol, it is insulting to be told to check Twitter, LinkedIn, and Telegram for information on a core protocol issue. This governance forum was designed for this exact purpose—to facilitate transparent and direct policy discussions. Redirecting members to social media is a profound show of disrespect to this community and the platform’s foundational principles. I do not care how many users are on LinkedIn, or X, or whatever transient social media platform exists—they need to come here. Those platforms should be for summaries and conclusive announcements, at best.
The fact that you would suggest we look for answers on external social media channels, rather than engaging in a serious, substantive discussion here where it belongs, is entirely unacceptable. This behavior and this direction is a disgrace to the project and a direct contradiction of what a decentralized autonomous organization should be, and everyone involved ought to be ashamed.
We need a clear and accountable path forward, not links to vapid tweets. We demand that the Bancor team and its representatives engage with us directly, here on this forum, to resolve the outstanding issues that have been ignored for far too long.
Moreover, we do not need advice; we are quite capable of making our own decisions. The very promises upon which we made those decisions were broken when the vortex burner—the mechanism for impermanent loss protection—was shut off. Whether or not this was done by a vote does not change the devastating consequences for LPs; it merely highlights a profound failure of the governance process itself to protect the very community it was intended to serve.
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### Author:  [@glenn](https://gov.bancor.network/u/glenn)
#### Post date: [September 15, 2025, 11:40pm UTC](https://gov.bancor.network/t/bnt-eth-deficit-chart/4908/6 "2025-09-15T23:40:22Z")
> [@ccc](#):
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> When, glenn? From where, glenn? It appears we have been left out of the loop here.
No one has been left out of the loop as there have been a number of proposals that have been actioned on to improve the deficit and discussed here in governance.
These proposals include using fees from v3 to go towards deficit reduction:
> [@Proposal for Bancor 3 to use 100% of fees for BNT market buy back](https://gov.bancor.network/t/proposal-for-bancor-3-to-use-100-of-fees-for-bnt-market-buy-back/4474):
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> Expected on Snapshot on October 8, 2023 This proposal is split from the discussion that has happened in this thread and Bancorians should read that post to have an understanding about this proposal TL;DR 100% of fees in Bancor 3 to be used for BNT market buy Summary Bancorians and LPs staked in Bancor 3 get small yield benefit from 10% of fees accumulating in their LP tokens. Instead of 90% of fees in Bancor 3 to be used for buying BNT from the market this proposal will move this to 100%…
fees from v2.1 to go towards deficit reduction:
> [@Proposal for the Bancor v2.1 vortex to use 100% of fees to burn BNT](https://gov.bancor.network/t/proposal-for-the-bancor-v2-1-vortex-to-use-100-of-fees-to-burn-bnt/4457):
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> Expected on Snapshot on October 1, 2023 This proposal is split from the discussion that has happened in this thread and Bancorians should read that post to have an understanding about this proposal TL;DR The Bancor v2.1 vortex to use 100% of fees to burn BNT The Bancor v2.1 vortex will not burn vBNT any longer Summary The reduction in BNT supply is the most important number for all Bancor v2.1 and Bancor 3 LPs. This affects the pool deficits as burned BNT is bought from the markets firs…
Fees from Carbon DeFi to go towards deficit reduction:
> [@Proposal: 100% of all fees earned from Carbon to Repair Bancor Deficit](https://gov.bancor.network/t/proposal-100-of-all-fees-earned-from-carbon-to-repair-bancor-deficit/4186):
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> FOR: 100 % of all fees generated from Carbon will be used towards repairing Bancors Deficit AGAINST: Disagree Overview: This proposal is straight forward. Until the deficit is completely repaired, all of the fees earned from Carbon will be used towards repairing Bancors Deficit. The obvious way of repairing the deficit is to use Carbons fees and purchase and burn BNT . Is there any other way carbons fees could be used to repair the deficit? I am unaware of any other method. Could carbons …
and there is also fees from the Arb Fast Lane as well:
> [@Proposal: Fastlane Gas Savings](https://gov.bancor.network/t/proposal-fastlane-gas-savings/4315):
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> Proposal: Fastlane Gas Savings Expected on Snapshot June 12, 2023. TL;DR The Fastlane was originally proposed here: [Proposal: Improved Value Capture and Fast Lane POC](https://gov.bancor.network/t/proposal-improved-value-capture-and-fast-lane-poc/4142) There have been some additional parameter changes since then. This proposal suggests a redesign of the Fastlane smart contract to help it function more efficiently Lowering the required gas should enable more arb opportunities The proposed changes Support flashloans in any token Support multiple flashloans in a single tr…
Regarding social media, this was a direct response to the OP mentioning that he has never seen Carbon DeFi mentioned anywhere, hence why I provided some of the social media channels for the product. Keep in mind that Carbon DeFi is a product that needs to be advertised to the masses of DeFi users and social media channels is the best way to do that.
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### Author:  [@exbancor](https://gov.bancor.network/u/exbancor)
#### Post date: [January 19, 2026, 8:20am UTC](https://gov.bancor.network/t/bnt-eth-deficit-chart/4908/9 "2026-01-19T08:20:01Z")
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